Notes from our call today — Oct 16, 2026

The beginning chapter needs to point to the biggest pain the cloud has to go through Sarah and I figured out that the package that Willa and goren give the twins has a little sack that is from their real parents and in the sack as a stone and stone has a dragon scale inside of it and when the twins touch the stone the dragon the stone cracks in half and the dragon scale emerges. We also figured out that the land that has fertile trees there's a river and it comes from the ocean or something and it makes for a wonderful and amazing place to have an orchard of apples and it's a very special place. Also the dragon had to give up something very important in order for it it's to give away a scale so whatever that means we don't know anything about the scale what that means dragon but what they find out in the first chapter is something about the Dragon and something about their parents another dragon and their parents have something to do with each other. So that's how we connect the origin story the origin of them finding out who they really are is the key to why he wants to find the dragon. And we also have some other ideas about cloud and struggling to find out who he is that is a key of him finding out who he is he's lost and he struggles with the evil parts of him we're going to compare ADHD and Josh holiday's life to that struggle of hitting himself but overcoming also I want Cloud to have to kill or defeat someone somehow and he doesn't want to kind of like Nephi has to play later and that needs to be part of him going through his challenges what else did Lindsey and I talked about she went to Rigby she's going to Rigby she is finding so why does why does the Dragon Boy a scale because it means Magic and the dragon scale is the whole thing that and identified as the wheel Chosen One Market says how did you call please reveal the scale dragon scale there needs to be some kind of thing that he gives up what does he give up what will happen if he doesn't take his rightful place as the chosen one what will happen Scotty find the origin the people will die the risk will kill the welders he's a wielder he has to be the one just like Frodo is the ring bearer could Cloud be the scale bear the scale Bearer The Dragon Scale Bearer all this time cloud is looking for the dragon somewhere a person is it a person is it a horn is it something Cloud c l a l cloud c l a l hero's journey we talked about how he has to go through some extremely painful finding their parents cracked Stone cracked Stone that the twins share and keep it. Yeah she said that the reader really has to get emotionally involved that they have to watch the characters suffer and Sarah and I talked about things like the trail lonely infusion there's some other things about betrayal what else what else what else Trail loneliness not knowing who he really is I understanding confusion so how hate the uncomfortable the hero hates to be uncomfortable the hero struggles question is when do cloud and when does the hero and his sister find out that Willa and goren are not their parents I don't know but what happens is Willa and goren give them a wooden box or some kind of gift for them on their travels and in the Box is gifts but also there's an old tattered cloth or bag that's made of leather leather bag and Cloud and inside that is a scroll and another small sack with the we'll call it the Dragonstone which is interesting because it's all connected so at the very end of the 8th book cloud's father is given a stone like the stone seed and it's all circular because the stone with the scale is like the stone seed and it's very end you have the stone with the scale in it so that's incredible so the first book begins the scale Stone in the last book ends with the scale Stone so when I was talking to Lindsay it felt like she just understands book writing so much and she said that the process you send it to three friends to read the books and they give feedback on the books on the book then you have a developmental editor you have a line editor and you also have a some kind of some kind of Developmental editor and line editor and one other editor she said depending it so it's like 2.5 since per word for the editing of the book so it could cost like $2,500 bucks for editing developmental is all about the plot and then I forgot some of the other stuff but pretty amazing my question is is it a problem that the first book is called Dragon Summoner but the rest of the book is not about dragons dragons Sarah and I thought of a ton of ideas together it's amazing let's see details does he care why does cloud care that's the biggest question why do these people care about what they're doing like to have some internal motivation study the hero's journey again